Brendan Eich: JavaScript, Firefox, Mozilla, and Brave | Lex Fridman Podcast #160 on HackerTube: recommended by 5 Hacker News commenters across 4 separate months, 2021–2023.
podcast · evergreen
A roughly three-hour Lex Fridman podcast conversation with Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and co-founder of Mozilla and Brave. It covers JavaScript's rushed creation at Netscape, the browser wars, Firefox and Mozilla, and Brave's privacy approach.
Linked as a source for first-hand JavaScript and Netscape history, with commenters pointing to specific segments like the Java versus JavaScript decision.
“a real gem of an interview, in my opinion”
11 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.
Lex Fridman interviewed Brendan Eich earlier this year (a real gem of an interview, in my opinion). I found all of it interesting, but here's a timecode link where they begin to discuss the current era of "browser wars", technical aspects and history of privacy protections, ads, search, and how that's all related. ▶ this video
in “Brave Search beta” · View on HN
If this is exciting for you then you'll love this podcast with Brendan Eich. Brendan Eich is the creator of JavaScript and co-founder of Mozilla and Brave. ▶ this video
in “Netscape and Sun announce JavaScript (1995)” · View on HN
There was this wonderful podcast featuring Eich a few days ago: "Brendan Eich: JavaScript, Firefox, Mozilla, and Brave" ▶ this video
in “Brave buys a search engine, promises no tracking, no profiling” · View on HN
Lex Fridman just did a great podcast episode with Brendan Eich, credited with creating JavaScript. Lots of great little tidbits of history in the conversation - ▶ this video
in “Faster JavaScript Calls” · View on HN
Recommended "literature": 1. 10 Things I Regret About Node.js - Ryan Dahl - JSConf EU ( [link] ) 2. Brendan Eich: JavaScript, Firefox, Mozilla, and Brave | Lex Fridman Podcast #160 ( ▶ this video )
in “Choose Boring Technology (2015)” · View on HN
Scope in early JS was handled through a parent slot. Self was a big influence but I had no time to honor it properly. JS had ten days till a demo to prove to factions in Netscape and to most of Sun (Bill Joy was ally) that it had a role to play. See ▶ this video (earlier if you have time).
in “The influence of Self” · View on HN
It was the battle for "the web" and the sun+netscape partnership was an actual menace to microsoft's activex and vbscript things. There is an espisode the Lex Fridman podcast with Brendan Eich where he talks a little about that specific time.[1] The "panic" was right imo (only in that specific area) i mean, there is almost 0 microsoft on the web today. [1]: ▶ this video
in ““I am literally losing sleep” over Java (1996)” · View on HN
Ten day Mocha had strict ==, so better in that regard. History is detailed at ▶ this video . Rather than assuming a too-simple version, check out the details for how things went down. Do-overs not possible, by better new forms over time helped. Honest q: Do you actually use modern JS at all?
in “How JavaScript Works: deep dive into call, apply, and bind” · View on HN
>If only the conversations between Sun and Netscape had gone a little differently back in the day, and we'd had a single language/system in the browser Brendan Eich said there were discussions with Sun (e.g. Bill Joy) and Marc Andreessen and all agreed[1] there should deliberately be 2 languages instead of 1 in the Netscape browser: (1) an "easier/simpler" scripting type of language LiveScript aka Javascript (2) a "professional" compiled type of language like Java for more complex applications So, it wasn't an accident, or case of NIH Not Invented Here, or corporate bickering. What they didn't foresee in 1994 is that the non-professional Javascript would end up adding more (pro) features that it enabled it to eliminate the need for Java Applets. [1] deep link to B.E. explanation: ▶ this video
in “The End of Applets” · View on HN
similarly to your experience, I'm using Brave browser (based on chromium) since recently (after watching ▶ this video ), mostly attracted by the built-in adblocker
in “AskHN: How much is Chrome and how much is Chromium?” · View on HN
Hyatt anecdote at ▶ this video . The point is not about Silicon Valley, commercialization of the Web (although as Dorothy Denning observed, the pre-Web Academic Internet was a more secure world only because not many attackers yet), or academic pressure. WiB applies to biology. I have friends at a synth-bio startup, one tweeted humorously the other month about how bad a hack evolution is!
in “Brendan Eich on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]” · View on HN