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Bryan Cantrill from Joyent on Manta: internet-facing object storage facility that features compute

Bryan Cantrill from Joyent on Manta: internet-facing object storage facility that features compute on HackerTube: recommended by 4 Hacker News commenters across 5 separate months, 2014–2026.

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Bryan Cantrill of Joyent presents Manta, an internet-facing object store that lets you run compute directly on the data. The talk is peppered with ZFS history and Cantrill's trademark commentary on the industry.

Why Hacker News recommends it

HN recommends Cantrill talks generally for their mix of industry history, technical depth and entertaining delivery, and this one is a favorite for storage and data integrity threads.

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“I highly recommend any talk you can find of Bryan Cantrill. A wonderful mix of industry history and great delivery.”
— kbenson, Dec 2017, in “Xenserver 7.3: Changes to the Free Edition”

What HN commenters said

10 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.

kbensonDec 2017Strongly recommends

Bryan Cantrill says it best, I think[1]: "If you had to explain the Nazis to someone who had never heard of WWII but was an oracle customer, there's a very good chance you would actually explain the Nazis as an Oracle allegory." There are more choice quotes in someone else's HN comment about Bryan Cantrill on Oracle.[2] I highly recommend any talk you can find of Bryan Cantrill. A wonderful mix of industry history and great delivery. 1: ▶ this video 2: [link]

in “Xenserver 7.3: Changes to the Free Edition” · View on HN

gbrown_Mar 2017Strongly recommends

If you have corruption in RAID 1 how do you know which copy is good? On a slight tangent ZFS will checksum data and store that checksum in the block pointer (i.e. not with the data itself) so it can tell which of the copies is correct. The same extends to RAID 5 and RAID 6, although with RAID 6 you can intelligently work out which block might be bad. However that is assuming the block devices are returning consistent data and you are the one talking to the block devices. If the disks were sat behind a hardware RAID controller and the controller was the one you'd be hard pressed to identify the source of the data corruption. The checksumming in ZFS comes to the rescue here again. I recommend checking out this video [1] from Bryan Cantrill. It's about Joyent's object store Manta but features a fair bit of ZFS history. Also it features the usual rant level that one can come to expect from a Bryan Cantrill talk which I quite enjoy. There are plenty of other videos available on ZFS. [1] ▶ this video

in “Silent Data Corruption Is Real” · View on HN

gbrown_Aug 2016Recommends

Bryan Cantrill expresses this[1] in a manner I certainly agree with. Software that is designed/ intended to be reliable should not go through large periods of instability only to be written off as "prepubescence". [1] ▶ this video

in “Btrfs RAID 5/6 Code Found to Be Very Unsafe and Will Likely Require a Rewrite” · View on HN

FlenserAug 2015Recommends

You might enjoy this talk by Bryan Cantrill, where he describes the Oracle acquisition of Sun: [link] > "what you think of Oracle is even truer than you think it is. There has been no entity in human history with less complexity or nuance to it than Oracle" > "this company is about one man and his alter ego and what he wants to inflict upon humanity" Edit: And how could I forget this: ▶ this video > "and then, the Nazis invaded" > "for a while I tried to not go to Nazi allegory when talking about Oracle but I actually think that it does a dis-service to not go to Nazi allegory because if I don't use Nazi allegory when referring to Oracle there's some critical understanding that I have left on the table"

in ““Stop reverse engineering our code”” · View on HN

bcantrillNov 2014Recommends

If anyone's interested in a presentation introduction to Manta (presumably similar to the one you saw), you may want to check out my FutureStack presentation from last year.[1] And if you have 90 minutes to kill and are in the mood for the true origin story of Manta, see my video from NYC DevOps in January.[2] [1] [link] [2] ▶ this video

in “SmartDataCenter and Manta are now open source” · View on HN

ahnickJun 2020Cites it

Personally I think I'm more drawn to the dotmesh approach ( [link] ), but the one problem data has is as it gets massive it becomes really hard to move it around and I guess that's where trying to layer git like workflows on top of it become intractable. It's like data has it's own gravity and often times it is just easier to bring other things to the data, rather than the other way around. IIRC Bryan Cantrill said something similar about data when Joyent was developing their object storage system Manta ( ▶ this video ergo, perhaps the Splitgraph approach will meet with better success.

in “Show HN: Splitgraph - Build and share data with Postgres, inspired by Docker/Git” · View on HN

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masklinnDec 2017Cites it

And remember, > Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle. — Brian Cantrill ( [link] ) And > I actually think that it does a dis-service to not go to Nazi allegory because if I don't use Nazi allegory when referring to Oracle there's some critical understanding that I have left on the table […] in fact as I have said before I emphatically believe that if you have to explain the Nazis to someone who had never heard of World War 2 but was an Oracle customer there's a very good chance that you would explain the Nazis in Oracle allegory. — also Brian Cantrill ( ▶ this video )

in “Larry Ellison allegedly tried to have a professor fired for benchmarking Oracle” · View on HN

soraminazukiJun 2026Joke

He also said later: > For a while, I tried not going into Nazi allegory when talking about Oracle, but I actually think it does a disservice to not go into Nazi allegory because if I don't use Nazi allegory when referring to Oracle, there are some critical understanding that I have left on the table. There's an element of the story you can't possibly understand. If you had to explain the Nazis to someone who had never heard of World War 2, but was an Oracle customer, there's a very good chance that you would actually explain the Nazis in Oracle allegory. So, it's like: "Really, wow, a whole country?" "Yes, Larry Ellison has an entire country." "Oh my god, the humanity! The license audits!" "Yes, we should talk to Poland about it, it was bad." ▶ this video

in “Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"” · View on HN

DonHopkinsMay 2026Joke

The reason why Java is such a terrible choice now is not technical, it's the Lawnmower Nazi argument: [link] masklinn on Dec 9, 2017 | parent | context | favorite | on: Larry Ellison allegedly tried to have a professor ... And remember, > Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle. — Brian Cantrill ( [link] ) And > I actually think that it does a dis-service to not go to Nazi allegory because if I don't use Nazi allegory when referring to Oracle there's some critical understanding that I have left on the table […] in fact as I have said before I emphatically believe that if you have to explain the Nazis to someone who had never heard of World War 2 but was an Oracle customer there's a very good chance that you would explain the Nazis in Oracle allegory. — also Brian Cantrill ( ▶ this video )

in “If AI Writes Your Code, Why Use Python?” · View on HN

dkbrkJun 2025Joke

I actually think that it does a disservice to not go to Nazi allegory, because if I don't use Nazi allegory when referring to Oracle there is some critical understanding that I have left on the table; there is an element of the story that you can't possibly understand. In fact, as I have said before and I emphatically believe, if you had to explain the Nazis to somebody who had never heard of WWII but was an Oracle customer, there's a very good chance that you actually explain the Nazis in Oracle allegory. So, it's like: "Really, wow, a whole country?"; "Yes, Larry Ellison has an entire country"; "Oh my god, the humanity! The License Audits!"; "Yeah, you should talk to Poland about it, it was bad. Bad, it was a blitzkrieg license audit." ▶ this video

in “UK unis to cough up to £10M on Java to keep Oracle off their backs” · View on HN

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