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CodeMageJun 2019Strongly recommends
> I think part of the difference in HN opinion color is somewhat related to transparency. It's not that I disagree with you on the topic of transparency, it's that I think we can't really compare opinions on two very different topics as if they were the same topic. People complaining about too many subscription content providers are not really arguing for or against a monopoly. It's not the same discussion. > And I'd say Google and Facebook haven't done a sufficient job in proactively informing the public about what they collect, how they generate revenue from it, and what's currently stored about a user. Granted, but I'm pretty sure that even if they did so, it wouldn't make much difference. I always refer people to Moxie Marlinspike's DEF CON keynote called "Changing threats to privacy" [1]. I would definitely recommend watching it in full, but the key takeaway from it -- for the purposes of this discussion -- is that it all boils down to choice. He talks about the way technology changes the fabric of the society, how it changes the way people interact, communicate and coordinate, and declining to participate in this new way of doing things exposes you to the "no network effect". This is why it's not enough for Google and Facebook to merely inform people about what they collect and how they use it. As long as they're practically monopolies, they can disclose and inform and then go on just the same, because there's no other viable alternative and they'll work hard to ensure
in “Open Up vs. Break Up” · View on HN
CodeMageNov 2013Strongly recommends
I would highly encourage anyone who thinks that the solution is as simple as "don't use XYZ" to see what Moxie Marlinspike had to say about "Changing threats to privacy" at Defcon 18: ▶ this video
in “Surveillance as a Business Model” · View on HN
yourcelfAug 2013Strongly recommends
Moxie Marlinspike gave a fantastic talk on this subject in 2010, even down to the government mandated tracking device vs mobile phone: ▶ this video
in “The Public-Private Surveillance Partnership” · View on HN
losvedirDec 2012Strongly recommends
> Or, maybe, IM with OTR without logging, but that . . . might also fall prey to crazy counterparty either not disabling logging or intentionally recording and blackmailing. I thought this was one of the benefits of OTR over, say, PGP. That is, with PGP if you sign a message the counterparty can wave it around and say "look at what this poerson said", while with OTR, since the encryption is done with a shared key, it could be just as likely that the counterparty made it up. At least, that's what I gleaned from this wonderful video[1] someone linked to on HN yesterday. [1] ▶ this video
in “Steps to Anonymous and Secured Communication” · View on HN
CodeMageJan 2019Recommends
> There are plenty of alternatives to social media - email, SMS, phone calls, and even decentralized options. I suggest watching Moxie Marlinspike's keynote for Defcon 18: ▶ this video
in “Tech Companies Manipulate Our Personal Data” · View on HN
CodeMageOct 2016Recommends
I would encourage you to watch the Defcon 18 talk by Moxie Marlinspike, called "Changing threats to privacy". It explains why "simply don't participate in X" is not really a valid option. Here's the link to the talk: ▶ this video
in “CoinTent: A Sustainable Ad-Free Web” · View on HN
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sygmaSep 2016Recommends
> Using the messaging service is a voluntary decision Yes, it is voluntary, but it would be socially alienating not to be on that service. Here's a relevant talk [0] by Moxie Marlinspike talking about that. [0]: ▶ this video
in “Facebook Ordered to Stop Collecting Data on WhatsApp Users in Germany” · View on HN
CodeMageAug 2016Recommends
There's a reason most people don't like hearing that: it's not a solution. I could try to explain, but Moxie Marlinspike did it a lot better: ▶ this video
in ““How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”” · View on HN
lucb1eDec 2013Recommends
Define: freely I think Moxie Marlinespike's talk at Defcon 18 (2010) was a really good one: ▶ this video He talks about how we do not really have a free choice when it comes to things like having a Facebook account or having a mobile phone. Namely due to the network effect, you don't really have a choice if you want to be a normal member of society.
in “Facebook's AI lab” · View on HN
jiggy2011Nov 2012Recommends
Lots of people don't care about voting in elections, giving to charity, partaking in public demonstrations or looking after their health either. The problem is not so much whether people mind if their location is tracked or whether they have control over their hardware etc. It's more that once these things reach a critical mass it is very difficult to start to go back if we don't like where we are or indeed for an individual to make a choice to live outside of this stuff. It is articulated quite well here: ▶ this video At around 09:00
in “I Don't Want To Be Part of Your Ecosystem” · View on HN
giornogiovannaJan 2019Cites it
But at some point, it becomes a basic requirement to participate in society, and that gives the people who want out an impossible choice, not by any virtue of the platform, but by the platform hijacking the virtue of society.[0] [0]: ▶ this video "Changing threats to privacy"
in “Mark Zuckerberg Speaks Down to Users and Misses the Point” · View on HN
nitrogenAug 2015Cites it
When effective cultural participation requires keeping up to date with at least some of Hollywood's products, choosing not to view/listen is the same as choosing to be just that much more socially disconnected. See Moxie Marlinspike's presentation about this concept applied to technology: ▶ this video When one oligopoly owns the vast majority of contemporary popular culture, we, the populace, should be expecting a lot more in return.
in “New Trans-Pacific Partnership Leak Means ‘Significant Overhaul’ for Canadian Law” · View on HN
acqqAug 2013Cites it
The point is, Google isn't just "selling space." They collect the data about you, admitting themselves that they prefer to never delete anything. The key word is "targeting," remember? In process, they still know more about you than your mother or partner. Somewhere in their guts, there is a collection of data about you, the depth of it not even imaginable before. How we got here: Moxie Marlinspike, 2010: ▶ this video
in “Google Blindness” · View on HN
rasengan0Jun 2013Cites it
Hmm...the writer of the article almost echoes the exact same narrative of Defcon 18 Changing threats to privacy - Moxie Marlinspike ▶ this video
in “NSA-proof encryption exists. Why doesn’t anyone use it?” · View on HN
throa8923489Feb 2013Cites it
Reminds me of this talk ▶ this video by moxie. We thought we would get facism, instead we got social democracy. We will be able to deal with this, though, using appropriate laws. Europe will certainly go down that route, the US will probably follow. For example, using the camera to take pictures or videos that are stored or shared (vs. just processed by some augmented reality algorithms) could enable a small lamp on the frame of the glasses. Just like a video recorder, but without the ability to (easily!) turn it off.
in “I used Google Glass” · View on HN
spindritfDec 2012Cites it
> The world is not sliding, but galloping into a new transnational dystopia. This development has not been properly recognized outside of national security circles. I agree with Moxie Marlinspike on that, we were preparing for fascism but got social democracy[1]. Assange is still preparing for fascism. [1] ▶ this video
in “Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms” · View on HN
krappNov 2012Cites it
wonder if a surveillance society could work if everyone was allowed access to the information. ▶ this video tl;dw -- it does.
in “Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker” · View on HN