Facebook Freebooting - Smarter Every Day 128
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Destin Sandlin of Smarter Every Day explains 'Facebook freebooting', where Facebook users re-upload YouTubers' videos natively and the original creators lose views and revenue. He describes his own attempts to get Facebook to act.
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pen2lJul 2015Recommends
Did you watch his video where he explains his views himself? I find it pretty convincing: ▶ this video Interestingly, a lot of people are getting very frustrated with Facebook for other reasons as well. Famously, there's Veritasium's video: [link] I can really appreciate what they're feeling. With piracy as we have traditionally known it, at least usually the pirate is not directly profiting from his act of piracy. With freebooting, Facebook is literally profiting from other people's work. It's directly diverting money flow from the creator (who REALLY NEED THE MONEY) to Facebook. I think it's plainly ridiculous this is happening, and obviously Facebook will turn a blind eye to it because it's making them money. This is one of the reasons why I encourage whitehat security researchers to turn a little gray when it comes to Facebook and do things to bring them down, it'll be for the greater good to bring the behemoth down.
in “Facebook’s Piracy Problem” · View on HN
wolphJul 2019Cites it
It's apparently a bit of a hassle to get it removed at times though. And in most cases far to late for it to really matter: ▶ this video
in “Facebook is embedding tracking data inside the photos you download” · View on HN
TAForObvReasonsMay 2018Cites it
It's absolutely insane that freebooting [1] on Facebook was allowed to persist for so long. It's easy to see the right to monetary remuneration as a method of addressing a massive loophole exploited by Facebook and certain users for years. [1] ▶ this video
in “EU censorship machines and link tax laws are nearing the finish line” · View on HN
RalfpMay 2016Cites it
SmarterEveryDay told a story in one of his videos about slow-mo clip of tatoo machine in action being ripped from one of his movies by the large press publisher, Bauer, and reuploaded on Bauer's Facebook page. Then Bauer moved on to claim DMCA on his original uploaded by him on his Facebook page: ▶ this video
in “Fox 'uses' a gameplay video from YouTube, and removes the original with DMCA” · View on HN
pdkl95Jan 2016Cites it
Facebook has a history of fraud in their other services. Veritasium fell victim to FB's scams as a publisher a couple years ago[1]. I know first-hand that Facebook's advertising model is deeply flawed. When I paid to promote my page I gained 80,000 followers in developing countries who didn't care about Veritasium (but I wasn't aware of this at the time). They drove my reach and engagement numbers down, basically rendering the page useless. They also have a history of encouraging video fraud[2][3]. [1] [link] [2] ▶ this video [3] [link]
in “Facebook ad click numbers are inconsistent with other analytics” · View on HN
forrestthewoodsDec 2015Cites it
I didn't say Udemy was responsible for flagging content. But I am saying there's no fucking way there are only 125 copyright infringing cases. It's a shit ton more. It may not be their responsibility to find them. But to imply that's the extent of the problem is wrong and a lie. "nor can anyone other than the copyright holder reasonably be expected to" I don't think this is a fundamentally true statement. For example I believe that Facebook has a moral obligation to provide tools to stop freebooting. ▶ this video
in “Anger at 'stolen' online courses on Udemy” · View on HN
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pen2lDec 2015Cites it
Consider as well that Facebook steals money from content creators who really need the money . See ▶ this video & [link] Also, the idea of having Facebook at the cost of giving up your privacy to this behemoth, and more importantly, at the cost of this company exploiting your cognitive biases to get you to buy things hardly seems conducive to a spirit of bettering the world.
in “A letter to our daughter” · View on HN
snthdDec 2015Cites it
>“Freebooting” is a silly but oddly appropriate word invented by YouTubers CGP Grey and Brady Haran that means “taking online media and re-hosting it on your website without permission.” [link] ▶ this video
in “Why we chose to move to HTML5 video” · View on HN
pen2lOct 2015Cites it
It's parasitic because of its particular approach. For example, it could embed youtube videos... so that the real creators get their pay, but no, Facebook would rather that the videos be Facebook videos, thereby the original creator getting zero profit from his hard work. See ▶ this video for a first-hand account of the situation.
in “Just Say No to Facebook's Internet.org, Says Inventor of World Wide Web” · View on HN
lipsJul 2015Cites it
They're both at fault, to varying degrees, explicitly or implicitly. Destin mentions in his "intro to freebooting" video his various attempts to contact Facebook regarding the piracy, and that it was only removed after a Twitter campaign led by his viewers: ▶ this video I don't know much, or have any experience with DMCA, but it's my impression that if there's a copyright violation on Youtube, the video can be taken down very quickly, and the burden of proof is then placed on the uploader to get it back up.
in “Facebook’s Piracy Problem” · View on HN