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Gil Scott-Heron - Whitey On the Moon (Official Audio)

Gil Scott-Heron - Whitey On the Moon (Official Audio) on HackerTube: recommended by 3 Hacker News commenters across 3 separate months, 2018–2026.

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Gil Scott-Heron's 1970 spoken-word piece, in an official audio upload. It contrasts the Apollo moon program with poverty and neglect at home.

Why Hacker News recommends it

Posted in space-spending threads as a classic critique of priorities, usually with a quip.

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“Only two minutes, worth a listen”
— bloak, Jul 2021, in “Whitey on the Moon”

What HN commenters said

20 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.

bloakJul 2021Recommends

Is this in some way related to Bezos and Musk's antics? There's a recording on YouTube. Only two minutes, worth a listen: ▶ this video

in “Whitey on the Moon” · View on HN

lordlicJan 2021Recommends

No, the argument is that there's plenty to learn, and it's all very interesting, but it doesn't stand up against people's very real needs here on Earth. I'm about the biggest fan of space you'll find, but even I, sadly, find the ethical calculus unassailable. Manned spaceflight won't accrue material benefits for ten generations or much more, and meanwhile human beings are dying of treatable or curable diseases, suffering under poverty, and living without access to clean water. This spoken-word work from 1970 conveys the sentiment well: ▶ this video

in “One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected” · View on HN

rospayaJul 2018Recommends

There's a great Gil Scott Heron song with the same theme. In his case it was poverty and healthcare among African Americans in the 60s, not cancer. ▶ this video

in “Liquid water 'lake' revealed on Mars” · View on HN

scarecrowbobApr 2026Cites it

Yeah, that's the take I have been looking for a spot to drop. ▶ this video I believe that folks in the US are, by a large margin, the most highly propagandized group of people in history. It's hard to watch stuff like this. It's not that I don't understand that comparatively space exploration is small compared to the associated costs of the boots that might hit the ground today.

in “NASA Artemis II moon mission live launch broadcast” · View on HN

raw_anon_1111Dec 2025Cites it

> IMHO, "tech optimism" reached its peak in 1969 when Armstrong and Aldrin landed on the Moon. Not everyone was so optimistic. You just didn’t hear about it on mainstream media ▶ this video

in “Ask HN: Is it just me or techno-optimism died in the past few years?” · View on HN

ngangagaMay 2025Cites it

Well sure, if you're looking to be angry you can tie anything into your interests. But actual criticism of the moon landing is soberly connected to reality: ▶ this video I'm just saying there's a reason why moon landing is such a funny topic to discuss—if you do deeply care about it enough to deviate from the accepted narrative, that's very odd.

in “Conspiracy theorists can be deprogrammed” · View on HN

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drysineJan 2025Cites it

> I'm sure Uyghurs in China would not give a damn about AI. Which reminded me of "Whitey On the Moon" [0] [0] ▶ this video

in “DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via RL” · View on HN

throwaway19972Oct 2024Cites it

Previous generations also had it easy. Generally speaking technological advancement isn't blocked by motivation but by other concerns, namely funding. Personally, I'd rather fix healthcare if we're going to spend political capital. ▶ this video remains as relevant as ever

in “Ion engines could take us to the solar gravitational lens in less than 13 years” · View on HN

pyraleMar 2024Cites it

> But those aren't caused by resources diverted to space exploration. Going to space IS politics. It is, essentially, a vanity goal for a whole society. The resources diverted are, essentially, mindshare and political. It is only fair then that people ask why we as a society look to space when we have so many problems here, just as it was fair to ask why so much attention was given to the race to the moon rather than, say, civil rights [1]. [1]: ▶ this video

in “The Starship or the Canoe: Where will our future adaptations be? (2017)” · View on HN

tivertOct 2023Cites it

> A human being landing on Mars would probably be the single most watched event in human history. I'm actually skeptical about that. It certainly would be the "single most watched event in human history" among geeks interested in space, and probably among geeks in general and nationalists of the country that did the landing, but I suspect it's a biased projection to extend that attitude to all of humanity. Objectively, it's likely that stuff like the opening days of some war or the 9/11 attacks would be more watched than a Mars landing. Apropos: Gil Scott-Heron - Whitey On the Moon (Official Audio): ▶ this video

in “Mars has a surprise layer of molten rock inside” · View on HN

wnc3141Jul 2023Cites it

I think while it's impressive to think that the moon landings achieved an incredibly bold and complicated task, it just shows what's possible if you siphon off a big chunk of GDP into big projects and an organization capable of execution. A lot of that wealth since has been distributed around the globe, or poured into industry, medicare or social security. With that global wealth distribution, incredible medical advances have been made, and we have blown past the UN millennium goals. It's all a matter of priorities. Gill Scott Haron had this funny critique of Apollo program. ▶ this video With that said, not all priorities are chosen well in my opinion. The vast economic capacity required for a program like a moon landing have since been sequestered by shareholders benefiting from the returns of selling consumer data, building guided missiles, and seeking rents on privatized access to healthcare.

in “The Many Planned Moon Landings of 2023” · View on HN

UncleMeatJul 2021Cites it

An alternative viewpoint: ▶ this video I'm not convinced that exploration is such a self-justifying good that we should look past the very real and very urgent problems that are aggravated precisely by the people "leading the way" here.

in “Bezos donates $100M each to CNN contributor Van Jones and chef Jose Andres” · View on HN

lumostDec 2020Cites it

Is Charles Koch? is Jim Walton? The list of billionaires is expansive at this point in time. While there are some like Elon Musk who are directing the economy in ways that would be perceived to some like myself as positive. For the ~262 million people in the US who would be unable to afford a Tesla, will never go to the Moon or Mars, live paycheck to paycheck and may lack the education ( or interest ) in space to appreciate the science and technology advancements being made, These activities can best be summed up with this song inspired by the 1969 landings. ▶ this video

in “Billionaires Build” · View on HN

fredfoobarSep 2019Cites it

This is such a meme comment, some white dude on the internet thinks he knows better than everybody, what gives? I'm curious how white people reacted when this song dropped: ▶ this video

in “India to Attempt Moon Landing at the Lunar South Pole Today” · View on HN

sbr464May 2019Cites it

I’m not downvoting you (maybe mentally), it’s a valid point. It’s also been a long-standing perspective; Whitey on the moon, from 1969: ▶ this video And from the Atlantic: Moondoggle: The Forgotten Opposition to the Apollo Program [link] (I’m personally for moon and space missions, there will always be issues to overcome)

in “Blue Moon” · View on HN

rjf72Apr 2019Cites it

It sometimes seems that democracy, somewhat paradoxically, trends towards division. The grand projects of times past were generally created by entities where their successor would generally be vested in their success. Be this in the form of religions organizations or non-democratic political entities such as monarchies. In democracy this kinship frequently does not exist between successive entities, and there is even often an effort to dismantle the works of a previous administration as well as blaming any faults on them. There are also basic democratic political problems. One very myopic, and very common, political argument is of the form: "You want to [do something amazing] while there's [people dying of cancer] [kids starving to death in Africa] [etc] [etc]?!" This argument feels reasonable to most people, and can be used to frame a candidate (who wants to do grand things) as being out of touch. And it's extremely effective. It makes it difficult to spend large amounts of money on things outside of those that can be justified on a very immediate level, such as war. The space program is probably the greatest project the modern United States has engaged in. And if it had carried on it's likely our species would now today inhabit bodies beyond just this planet. But it was not continued. This [1] is a song from the 70s that was published shortly before Nixon, who had a long standing animosity with JFK since losing a razor thin election to him in 1960, would completely gut the

in “The Notre Dame fire and the future of history” · View on HN

theothermknMar 2019Cites it

> Do you ever wonder how people felt when they say Magellan or Captain Cook set off? Or, when they watched the Apollo missions happen? Yeah, I do wonder: ▶ this video I think how they feel probably depends on their perspective, their financial situation, their susceptibility to public relations, and so on. Let's say everything goes "great," and there are a million people living on Mars in 50 years. Will it matter to people dying in a war, or ailing next to an open sewer, or what-have-you back on Earth that there's some depressed Martians trapped in smelly cans and covered in perchlorate- and iron-laden dust 4 to 12 light minutes away? I don't think it will. I think that when many of us "wonder" or "imagine" what people felt like when they watched or participated in these events, what we're really doing is projecting the relief and and other pleasant emotions that we experience when we imagine them, when we use imagining them as an escape fantasy to cope with our own anxieties, to that imagined audience. Frank Borman actually went to the Moon, and his feelings about it, are definitely situated inside of his own perspective: [link] It's probably important for us to face this phenomenon square on, to check in with what's really going on with our "dreams of space" or sense of Solar "manifest destiny." There's a reason that space-age propaganda seems so successful, both in its own time, where its object was removed from us only by the impassable gulf of 10 km/s, and now, when it is beh

in “SpaceX Crew Dragon Docks with International Space Station” · View on HN

RA_FisherJan 2019Cites it

Seems like a good time to reflect on the work: "Whitey on the Moon" ▶ this video It'd be one thing if this was private money, instead it comes out of the pocketbooks of those suffering. That's rarely acknowledged.

in “New Horizons Reaches Ultima Thule” · View on HN

rtpgJan 2018Cites it

I think the debate forces an acknowledgement that the objectives themselves don't always have intrinsic value. I agree there's a lot of things that can be gotten from it like NASA funding, but many people do not really "know" the utility of going to the moon. For example, people will talk about mining on the moon, but I've only ever seen articles debunking the utility of this, and not a single in-depth analysis in favor of this. I might be looking in the wrong spots. My theory is that relatively few people can justify the value of these efforts convincingly. This is part of why NASA doesn't have a bigger budget. "Whitey on the moon"[0] has a ring of truth to it. Developing strong arguments for further development is one of the most effective ways for people to support further development. Otherwise you end up with things like "We'll go to Mars for space tourism/exploration!". Which is... well you do what you want with your money, but that's a hell of a lot of money for tourism. Public funding will be hard to come by. [0]: ▶ this video

in “The Google Lunar X Prize’s Race to the Moon Is Over. Nobody Won” · View on HN

llm_trwDec 2024Critical

The past wasn't optimistic, we merely ignored negative Nancies because they had nothing to say. In the last 10 years for some reason we gave them the megaphone and let them dictate how everything is done. Exhibit A: ▶ this video

in “Silicon Valley Tea Party a.k.a. the great 1998 Linux revolt take II (1999)” · View on HN

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