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Google I/O 2012 - Meet the Go Team

Google I/O 2012 - Meet the Go Team on HackerTube: recommended by 2 Hacker News commenters across 1 month, 2012–2022.

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A fireside Q&A with the Go team (Pike, Thompson, Griesemer and others) at Google I/O 2012. They answer audience questions about Go's design, goals, garbage collection plans and future.

Why Hacker News recommends it

HN people cite it for candid answers straight from Go's creators, including Ken Thompson on how the complexity of C++0x motivated Go.

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“If you're curious/interested in Go, it's worth watching the whole talk.”
— james4k, Jul 2012, in “Effective Go”

What HN commenters said

13 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.

vibrunazoJul 2012Recommends

I'd particularly recommend "Meet the Go team". Some really interesting questions, and most importantly answers. In the video :) ▶ this video

in “Go videos from Google I/O 2012” · View on HN

james4kJul 2012Recommends

That was actually one of the questions asked during the "Meet the Go team" talk at Google I/O. They joke around for a bit, but they end up giving some solid arguments. ▶ this video Edit: If you're curious/interested in Go, it's worth watching the whole talk.

in “Effective Go” · View on HN

_wlduOct 2022Cites it

The complexity of C++0x is one reason Go was created. "For me, the reason I was enthusiastic about Go was just about the same time we were starting on Go, I read (or tried to read) the C++0x proposed standard. And that was the convincer for me." - Ken Thompson 17:45 mark here: ▶ this video

in “C++20 coroutines: “The bug is in the C++ standard, not GCC.” (2020)” · View on HN

_wlduMay 2022Cites it

C++0x is one of the reasons Go was created. C++ was getting far too complex: "For me, the reason I was enthusiastic about Go was just about the same time we were starting on Go, I read (or tried to read) the C++0x proposed standard. And that was the convincer for me." - Ken Thompson 17:45 mark here: ▶ this video

in “New C++ features in GCC 12” · View on HN

_wlduFeb 2020Cites it

"About the same time we were starting to work on Go, I read, or tried to read, the C++0x proposed standard and that was convincing to me." -- Ken Thompson Source -- ▶ this video

in “Move, simply” · View on HN

_wlduFeb 2020Cites it

"About the same time we were starting to work on Go, I read, or tried to read, the C++0x proposed standard and that was convincing to me." -- Ken Thompson Source -- ▶ this video

in “You can't make C++ not ugly, but you can't not try (2010)” · View on HN

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mseepgoodMay 2014Cites it

> No generic support (What language designer in 2014 builds > something that idiomatically requires casting to the top > type? That was precisely a huge problem for Java Even a seasoned Haskell programmer like Erik Meijer has a more nuanced view on the topic than you: [link] > you can't extend important built-ins like range or make() This was a deliberate design decision. When the Go team was asked about what they like about Go one answer was: "It's very simple to understand, and the code that I read on the page is the code that is executed. When I iterate over a slice, there's not some chance that there's an iterator implementation that fetches a file from a web server in Romania and serves me some JSON or something. Instead, the language is very deliberately simple and contained so that it's very easy to reason about code that you're reading." ▶ this video

in “Java is the COBOL of my generation and Go is its successor” · View on HN

wlllApr 2014Cites it

That suggests you don't understand what tabs are. Tabs are a single char, not x number of spaces. You can set your text editor to display tabs as any number of spaces you want, I set mine to two. See: ▶ this video

in “Space Monkey dumps Python for Go” · View on HN

mseepgoodSep 2012Cites it

The "Talks and Videos" page ( [link] ) is outdated as well. Here's my personal list: Why Learn Go? [link] Short interview with Rob Pike, OSCON 2012 Get Started with Go [link] Andrew Gerrand A Tour of Go [link] Russ Cox Go Concurrency Patterns [link] Rob Pike, Google I/O 2012 Goroutines, Channels Meet the Go Team ▶ this video Panel (Pike, Thompson, Griesemer, Gerrand, Fitzpatrick, Simons), Google I/O 2012 Computing Map Tiles with Go on App Engine [link] Chris Broadfoot, Andrew Gerrand, Google I/O 2012 Go in Production [link] Gustavo Niemeyer, Google I/O 2012 Go: Code that grows with grace [link] (Contains some audio glitches) Andrew Gerrand Interview with Rob Pike [link] Rob Pike, GOTO Conference Lexical Scanning in Go [link] Rob Pike Cuddle, A Go AppEngine Demo [link] Andrew Gerrand Building Integrated Apps on Google's Cloud Platform [link] Andrew Gerrand, Google Developer Day Japan 2011 Real World Go [link] Andrew Gerrand, I/O BootCamp 2011 Go: it's that simple?! [link] Andrew Gerrand, OSDC 2011 Practical Go Programming [link] Andrew Gerrand, FOSDEM 2011 Writing Web Apps in Go [link] Andrew Gerrand, Rob Pike, Google I/O 2011 Go Programming [link] Rob Pike, Google I/O 2010 Another Go at Language Design [link] Rob Pike, Stanford University Public Static Void [link] Rob Pike, OSCON 2010 The Go Programming Language [link] Rob Pike, Google Tech Talk

in “Will Go be the new go-to programming language?” · View on HN

realrockerSep 2012Cites it

The following features make Go as the "go-to" language for me: 1.Coroutines, Channels and Select: Concurrency with built in synchronization and communication is accessible(especially if your are new to concurrent programming) enough to handle "most" of the grunt work. 2.gofmt: Formats your code for you. No more debates(procrastination) on that. 3.godoc: Generates documents. No more looking for the best 3rd party tool and wasting time. 4. Defer and Close: Helps you to do better post-operation tasks i.e better resource management. 5. Error Handling: Multivalue returns. 6. Type Hierarchy: No type hierarchy exists in the conventional sense. 7. Slices & Maps: Just two of them, and that's why I love it. 8. Brevity and Readability: Clutter free syntax. WYSISWYG language. 9. Philosophy of Exclusiveness: This is most important non-feature which makes Go different and exciting. Go's vision is to be an exclusive programming paradigm rather than being an inclusive one. In this Google I/O video: ▶ this video , Robert Griesemer speaks about an incident that how in a "D" programming conference, the developers intended to include a new programming paradigm in the future. This is what sold it for me as I care more about how the language will grow instead of what new cool features will come in. Performance is a contentious issue. In an ideal world, performance would just depend on the platform and the language, but in reality it also depends on the skill and idiosyncrasies of the programmer. For me

in “Will Go be the new go-to programming language?” · View on HN

mseepgoodSep 2012Cites it

Thanks for the link. Here's a video from 2012 starring him: ▶ this video Not an interview, but he sometimes says a sentence.

in “Unix and Beyond: An Interview with Ken Thompson” · View on HN

akavelAug 2012Cites it

AFAIK, yes it is still the case (although somewhat slightly improved), but precise collector is officially expected (and being worked on) for version 1.1 . The latter was explicitly said on a Q&A session on Google I/O conference, the video is available somewhere on teh interwebs. edit: I think it's this one: ▶ this video ("Meet the Go team"), but maybe some other from: [link] (sorry, don't have time to watch them all again now to make sure ;)

in “"100% of our production system is now running Go"” · View on HN

lurielJul 2012Cites it

If you watch the "Meet the Go team" talk from Google IO, they explicitly mention that almost nothing in Go is particularly new, and most of its ideas have been around for decades: ▶ this video What makes Go great is not the individual features, but the selection of the features and how well they work together, and also the "features" that were excluded from the language.

in “Golang at CloudFlare” · View on HN

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C, C++, Rust, Go & systems languagesProgramming language designgogolanglanguage designken thompsonq&agoogle i/o