athmsOct 2020Recommends
Harlan Ellison has a good take on it from a writer's perspective. The creative business is always trying to get something for nothing. ▶ this video
in “F*ck You, Pay me – Everyone should watch this once per year” · View on HN
Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer
Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer on HackerTube: recommended by 1 Hacker News commenter across 1 month, 2013–2021.
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A three-minute rant by Harlan Ellison, excerpted from the documentary Dreams with Sharp Teeth, on why creative professionals should always be paid for their work rather than work for free or 'exposure'.
Why Hacker News recommends it
The standard link whenever someone asks creatives to work unpaid or for publicity.
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“The creative business is always trying to get something for nothing.”
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5 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.
happytoexplainMay 2021Cites it
This is less about "can" and more about "should". It's bad for everybody when professionals work "for publicity" or are encouraged to do so, despite the relative innocence of the professional who chooses to do so. For the least subtle take on this possible, see: ▶ this video
in “Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings” · View on HN
duxupMay 2021Cites it
Even if you're established in your career ... they'll ask you. As Harlan Ellison demonstrates: ▶ this video
in “Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings” · View on HN
coldteaJun 2014Cites it
> Is art, similarly to science, not an iterative process based on the input of dozens, hundreds, thousands of people that came before us? Are we all not standing on the shoulders of giants, pushing just a few steps forward more, both because we like what came before us but want to see it go someplace new? Yes, and a lot of us want to be paid for our contributions to this mass endeavour. Case in point, lots of those giants on whose shoulders we stand got ripped off and died peniless. Obligatory link: ▶ this video (Harlan Elisson, "Pay the writer").
in “Houston, We Have A Public Domain Problem” · View on HN
joshAgMar 2013Cites it
this video interview with harlan ellison seems relevant here (warning, language): ▶ this video perhaps profit sharingbased on unique views might be a solution to the problem.
in “A Day in the Life of a Digital Editor, 2013” · View on HN
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Labor, work & inequalityLiterature & writing craftharlan ellisonfreelancingunpaid workwriterscreative industry