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Jaron Lanier interview on how social media ruins your life

Jaron Lanier interview on how social media ruins your life on HackerTube: recommended by 2 Hacker News commenters across 2 separate months, 2018–2019.

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A Channel 4 News interview with technologist Jaron Lanier, who argues that social media damages people's lives. He discusses how Facebook, YouTube and Google use algorithms and data collection to shape what users see.

Why Hacker News recommends it

Offered as a concise summary of the economics and manipulation behind social media addiction in Facebook-related threads.

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“Good summary is Jaron Lanier’s interview”
— randomsearch, Jan 2019, in “Facebook shares shoot up after strong Q4 earnings despite data breach”

What HN commenters said

3 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.

randomsearchJan 2019Recommends

Couple of points people are missing: - The biggest problem with Facebook in terms of immediate impact is not loss of privacy, though that’s real. It’s behavioural manipulation, which has lots of very negative outcomes for you as a user as well as society. Don’t think you’re not been manipulated, you are, and you are susceptible to it. Your behaviour and emotions are negatively impacted by the fact you use facebook. - This is not “capitalism” or “consumer voting with their money”. Firstly, due to network effects Facebook has a monopoly on their kind of product. The choice is Facebook vs no facebook. Second, the currency is time and attention to sell ads. Finally, most people are addicted to social media by design and it’s arguable whether they have a truly free choice. Is a gambling addict voting with their feet? The gambling addict knows they won’t win and usually knows they’re addicted; social media addicts people very subtly and manipulates you over time. Few people would admit to being addicted, but if you really think you’re not - fine, if it’s no big deal then just take a month off from social media and see what happens. Good summary is Jaron Lanier’s interview ▶ this video

in “Facebook shares shoot up after strong Q4 earnings despite data breach” · View on HN

colllectorofOct 2018Recommends

>Remove the YOU from social media, and use it to have fun about whatever it is you do to have fun, and it can actually be ... fun. This doesn't change the fact that 99% of things people give credit for to social media can be easily done without mediation through a multi-billion dollar corporation. Neither does it change the fact that Twitter and Facebook have a whole slew of horrible social effects. Centralization of the web, political polarization, emergent mobs trying to ruin people's lives, rise in depression and suicide rates, normalization of global surveillance, normalization of censorship, etc, etc. Jaron Lanier has some interesting thoughts on the economy behind some of this: ▶ this video

in “Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app” · View on HN

teleclimberMar 2019Cites it

Interestingly that's exactly how algorithms make things go viral. They pick up on things that get a quick reaction with complete disregard for what happens in the long term. Jaron Lanier explains this in his talks [0]. So features on social media are decided based on short term gains and posts on social media are promoted like that too. It's like an entire industry forgot their parents warnings about thinking about the future. [0] ▶ this video

in “U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says” · View on HN

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Futurism & technology and societyPrivacy, surveillance & cybercrimejaron lanierfacebookalgorithmsattention economydata collection