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The Antique Toaster that's Better than Yours

The Antique Toaster that's Better than Yours on HackerTube: recommended by 12 Hacker News commenters across 11 separate months, 2019–2025.

Technology Connections takes apart a 1940s Sunbeam Radiant Control toaster. It senses the toast's own browning and lowers and raises it automatically using purely mechanical parts and no electronics.

Why Hacker News recommends it

HN returns to it again and again as a favorite example of elegant, chip-free mechanical engineering that beats modern toasters.

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“In case you haven't seen this video of a toaster from the 60s before, you're in for a treat”
— tpoacher, Apr 2025, in “The hidden cost of AI coding”

What HN commenters said

20 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.

tpoacherApr 2025Strongly recommends

A related thought, just leaving this here. There's something great about old technology (though obviously one must be aware of survivorship bias when citing such technology), despite the fact that, logically speaking, new technology should have obviously been better. Perhaps it's some variant of Jevons' paradox. The better / more efficient things get, the more of an impetus there is to use them in truly crappy ways. And this is how I'm starting to feel about programming with vs without an AI: you can either program manually to create truly creative, functional, elegant stuff, or use AI to produce garbage more efficiently. There just doesn't seem to be an in-between category, at least in terms of demand. In case you haven't seen this video of a toaster from the 60s before, you're in for a treat: ▶ this video I'm also reminded of Edsger Dijkstra's quote on elegance: [link]

in “The hidden cost of AI coding” · View on HN

adfmNov 2019Strongly recommends

The Sunbeam Radiant Control Toaster predates both and seems worth mentioning here for it’s superior user experience and unique analog technology. Technology Connections produced a fantastic teardown video of it a while back. ▶ this video

in “Smart Toaster Can’t Hold a Candle to the Apollo Computer” · View on HN

wummsJul 2024Recommends

> You might think such a system would involve a thermostat, a microcontroller, and an actuator, but this design [...] has bimetallic arms with steel on the outer surface and copper on the inner surface. As the filament heats up, the arms warm up, causing the copper to expand faster than the steel. This expansion pushes the arms open, releasing the lighter. The coil spring then causes the handle to pop out, signaling that the lighter is ready. Maybe I am in a picky mood, but for me the intro made it sound like all three items (thermostat, microcontroller, actuator) would not be necessary, though of course only the microprocessor is missing from the design (thermostat -> bimetallic arms, actuator -> spring). Mandatory link to another marvel in the same problem space (I found the 19min video worth the time): "An Antique Toaster That's Better Than Today’s [video]" ▶ this video [link] [2019, 386 points|5 years ago|232 comments]

in “How a car cigarette lighter works, in CT scans” · View on HN

zikduruqeJan 2024Recommends

What sold it for me, was the Sunbeam toaster. I always wondered why in the cartoons people would get shocked sticking a fork in a toaster. And into the rabbit hole I went... ▶ this video

in “Tom Scott: After ten years, it's time to stop making videos [video]” · View on HN

eruJan 2024Recommends

People might _say_ they want something made locally, but when it comes to _spending_ money, they mostly care about price and quality, less about patriotism. Compare the paper 'Prejudice is Free, but Discrimination has Costs' [link] In any case, if you are interested in fancy toasters, you might like to have a look at ▶ this video

in “Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters?” · View on HN

mikewarotSep 2023Recommends

They used to make damned clever toasters, like the Sunbeam Automatic toaster... it was freaking amazing. My dad had one with sales display board, etc... he was super proud of it. Here's a nice video about them.[1] [1] ▶ this video

in “Ask HN: Something that you learnt and made you go Wow” · View on HN

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thatguy0900May 2022Recommends

▶ this video a interesting video on a similar subject, a antique mechanical toaster that works better than many modern ones

in “Most Expensive vs. Cheapest Toaster” · View on HN

CRConradMay 2021Recommends

YouTuber Technology Connections was featured in the recent discussion on diswashing machines and detergents. He's done a video on a lovely ancient toaster, too: ▶ this video Fully automatic brownness selection, and hands-free insertion and pop-up -- all without any electronic chips at all.

in “The global chip shortage is starting to have consequences” · View on HN

modelessMar 2021Recommends

The reason is that old toaster designs had unpolarized plugs and therefore a good chance of uninsulated live wires inside, even when off. Modern toasters don't anymore, but folk wisdom lasts forever. Although you make a good point that if your outlet polarity is reversed, you might still have a problem. I don't know if modern designs are robust to that... I learned this from a video about old Sunbeam toasters that was unexpectedly fascinating: ▶ this video

in “Overnight Pizza and the Consistent Unreliability of Expert Guidelines” · View on HN

spappalAug 2020Recommends

Since toast is discussed on HN: I remember this video [0] nicely explaining some nice engineering of an interesting toaster. [0]: ▶ this video

in “Ask and Show HN: Ever coded for love? Willing to share?” · View on HN

JaepaJul 2020Recommends

I’d technology connections did a 20 minute long episode on the mechanical design of this toaster. I’d recommend it if you haven’t see it. ▶ this video

in “The Classic Sunbeam Radiant Control Toaster (2006)” · View on HN

chiphDec 2019Recommends

But then how could you make toast when you're not home, like at a conference, or driving in your car? /s This is a pretty cool toaster: ▶ this video

in “How to Make Toast: Electrical Engineering vs. Computer Science (2001)” · View on HN

IzkataJun 2024Cites it

Here's a very consistent toaster from the 60s where the dial sets how dark you want the toast, instead of how long to toast: ▶ this video

in “Poll: Is AI Hype a Bubble?” · View on HN

type0Mar 2024Cites it

> the toaster started melting itself about 5 seconds in. Thwaites considers it a partial success. and the difference between that diy contraption and this fancy old toaster is like a difference between a skateboard and a car ▶ this video

in “Ask HN: Do you also marvel at the complexity of everyday objects?” · View on HN

conductrJan 2024Cites it

A lot of great comments already but I'll add my opinion on search volume for 'toasters made in usa'. My feel is that a bulk of it is people looking for old fashioned toasters like showcased in this link; ▶ this video

in “Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters?” · View on HN

dustedMay 2021Cites it

About that toaster.. The one without the microchip is the better one, if only for not needing a god.damn microchip. ▶ this video

in “How Tech Loses Out” · View on HN

MaxikCZOct 2020Cites it

I dont know what toaster you use, but for me, toasters are exactly a piece of technology that evolved from masterpiece to horrible UX. Look up Sunbeam Radiant Toaster[0]. Now compare it to any other toaster you can buy today. I wish I could buy one Sunbeam Radiant Toaster, but its kinda pricy importing one from random ebay seller to EU.. [0]: ▶ this video

in “What is the best dumb TV?” · View on HN

jrimbaultAug 2020Cites it

It's basically the same physics involved in this toaster ▶ this video same channel. Thing heats and deforms (change properties), when it reaches temperature n, thing deforms just a bit too much, cuts electrical contact.

in “The battle to invent the automatic rice cooker” · View on HN

teh_klevJun 2019Cites it

> since when does actual real-life toast smoothly rise and fall again? Perhaps the inspiration came from the Sunbeam Radiant Control toaster: ▶ this video Unlike modern toasters which rudely attempt to catapult your toast into orbit, the Sunbeam gracefully and almost silently presents your toast with the love and care it deserves.

in “Introducing a new HTML element – welcome <clippy>” · View on HN

tacostakohashiMar 2021Joke

▶ this video If you're going to automate toaster shutoff as you suggest, maybe do it when the toast is nicely done instead of waiting until it's almost on fire? Just a thought.

in “Ask HN: Why don’t toasters have built in smoke detectors?” · View on HN

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