Listen. You're right. There, I gave you validation. But you're not going to change anyone's mind. So what's the point? Remember, the primary purpose of HN is entertainment (intellectual gratification). Internalizing this helped me break the habit of making such arguments "just to be right." I'll throw it back at you: Yes, I just ate two pork steaks. I have two more in the fridge. In fact, I'd personally murder a family of pigs if it was the only way I'd ever be able to eat pork steaks again. They're that delicious, and I am that selfish. Life isn't nice. It's brutal, short, and sprinkled with periods of happiness and ecstasy. It's always been that way, and it'll be that way long after we're gone. It is literally fine to use humans for sustenance if everyone collectively agrees it's fine, by the way. People have done it. [link] You could argue "Well, that was survival. Besides, those people were already dead." Literally every animal born into factory farming is already dead. They just don't realize it yet. I think linking to ▶ this video is probably your best bet at even getting people to stop and think about the question at all. Yet if even Kurzgesagt's eloquence doesn't make a dent (I still scarf down pork steaks on a regular basis), what hope do you have here? Once you internalize all of this, perhaps you'll be in a frame of mind to realize that it was off-topic to bring up factory farming in a thread about ivory poaching. I get where you're coming from, and I agree that it seem
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