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Arithmetic, Population and Energy - FULL LENGTH on HackerTube: recommended by 3 Hacker News commenters across 2 separate months, 2016–2024.

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Physicist Albert Bartlett's full-length lecture on how steady exponential growth in population and energy use collides with finite resources. It uses examples like bacteria in a bottle and covers peak oil.

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HN repeatedly quotes its thesis that humanity's greatest shortcoming is failing to understand the exponential function.

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“it shows a common blindspot in a way that is both clear, enlightening and frightening.”
— shahar2k, Oct 2016, in “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?”

What HN commenters said

12 Hacker News comments link this video. Each one links back to its thread.

theossuaryJul 2023Strongly recommends

Your point reminds me of my favorite guest lecture I've ever seen: ▶ this video About 2/3rds through makes the same point you do.

in “There’s a heatwave in the sea and scientists are worried” · View on HN

shahar2kOct 2016Strongly recommends

▶ this video "the greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function" not a high tech talk, or particularly technically complex, but it shows a common blindspot in a way that is both clear, enlightening and frightening.

in “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?” · View on HN

myshpaJul 2023Recommends

> Burn it all down and start over We won't be the ones doing that. > We're going to have to figure this sustainability thing out though It may be already late. I wish it wasn't so. I think we could have chance at repairing it ... if only we would do what's necessary. But we're not doing what's necessary, we never started even discussing it, and I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever do. We're talking only about climate change, but that's only one of the symptoms of the overshoot. Even people @ hacker news mostly don't have a clue. > we can't just ignore the problems We've been ignoring them for 50-70 years. The limits to growth / club of Rome was in 1972? So far ... we did nothing but ignored the problems. We may cross the 1.5C threshold in 5 years. Not in 2050 as previously expected, but in 5 years. And we're still pursuing economic growth. Have you noticed any evidence to the contrary lately? > it's going to be a big challenge, and things may get ugly I recommend few videos for you. I must warn you ... it may hamper your ability to enjoy parties. Collapse: The Only Realistic Scenario - Arthur Keller [link] How to Enjoy the End of the World - Dr. B. Sidney Smith [link] Arithmetic, Population and Energy - Dr. Albert A. Bartlett ▶ this video Why Societies Collapse And What it Means for Us - Joseph A. Tainter [link] Revealing the Naked Emperor – Paris, 2° & Carbon Budgets - Kevin Anderson [link]

in “How, Mathematically, We’re Fucked: Exponential growth on a finite planet” · View on HN

carapaceSep 2024Cites it

Do you imagine we will box up our terrestrial waste heat and launch it into the sun? The portion people who leave the Earth do not matter, the fate of the portion who remain remains the same. See "Arithmetic, Population and Energy: Sustainability 101", Al Bartlett [link] Full length video: ▶ this video

in “Solving climate change by abusing thermodynamic scaling laws” · View on HN

jodrellblankDec 2021Cites it

See this video from about 1999 - Arithmetic, Population and Energy by Dr Albert Bartlett, about this timestamp[1] for one example. It's mostly about oil, but he cites the work of M Hubbert which was from ~1956 and predicting peak oil production in the USA around 1980 and running out maybe in 2100. Not the "running out soon" that you claim. He also suggests the drops in production which delay the Hubbert peak correspond to OPEC oil price rises. Then see his updated talk from 2011 link[2] which includes " what we're taking out each year is something like three times what we're discovering each year ". Wikipedia critiques the Hubbert curve[4] saying " new extraction methods began reversing this trend beginning in the mid-2000s decade, with production reaching 10.07 million b/d in November 2017 – the highest monthly level of crude oil production in U.S. history ". The US Energy Information Authority (EIA) explains[3] " much of the increase in 2009 was associated with deepwater developments in the Federal Gulf of Mexico " and " Operators drilling at the Bakken and other shale formations are combining horizontal wells and hydraulic fracturing ". That is, turning to resources which are harder and more expensive to extract, resources which return fewer barrels of usble oil per barrel of oil of energy put in to extract them than easier to access resources. In the first talk he says " We have very good ways now of estimating how much oil remains undiscovered. Now every so often someone

in “When Fossil Fuels Run Out, What Then? (It's 2060) (2019)” · View on HN

acqqOct 2019Cites it

Specifically: "In 2016, a report published by the UK All-Party Parliamentary Group on Limits to Growth concluded that "there is unsettling evidence that society is still following the 'standard run' of the original study – in which overshoot leads to an eventual collapse of production and living standards".[45] The report also points out that some issues not fully addressed in the original 1972 report, such as climate change, present additional challenges for human development." Also Al Bartlett: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." Transcript: [link] Video: ▶ this video Previously mentioned: [link]

in “Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming” · View on HN

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acqqAug 2019Cites it

Also about that Asimov's article: [link] Also, Al Bartlett's thesis: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function" ▶ this video The transcript: [link]

in “The Population Bust” · View on HN

acqqJul 2019Cites it

I'd like to quote Al Bartlett: His thesis: " The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function " An example from the rest of the talk: "Bacteria grow by doubling. One bacterium divides to become two, the two divide to become 4, the 4 become 8, 16 and so on. Suppose we had bacteria that doubled in number this way every minute. Suppose we put one of these bacteria into an empty bottle at 11:00 in the morning, and then observe that the bottle is full at 12:00 noon. There's our case of just ordinary steady growth : it has a doubling time of one minute, it’s in the finite environment of one bottle. I want to ask you three questions. Number one: at what time was the bottle half full? Well, would you believe 11:59, one minute before 12:00? Because they double in number every minute. And the second question: if you were an average bacterium in that bottle, at what time would you first realize you were running of space? Well, let’s just look at the last minutes in the bottle. At 12:00 noon, it’s full; one minute before, it’s half full; 2 minutes before, it’s a quarter full; then an 1/8th; then a 1/16th. Let me ask you, at 5 minutes before 12:00, when the bottle is only 3% full and is 97% open space just yearning for development, how many of you would realize there’s a problem? " ▶ this video [link]

in “The human body is already close to thermal limits in many regions” · View on HN

SachoJan 2018Cites it

But this is the problem of exponential growth - you can sustain it without even noticing the detrimental effects, until suddenly you can't. The resource usage of all the doubling time periods until the last one would have used up only 50% of the resources available(this could be millions of years, depending on the exponent), and then suddenly the last one would use up all the resources left. This is repeatedly exemplified in Professor Allen Bartlett's talk "Arithmetic, Population and Energy"(video link at specific point: ▶ this video transcript: [link] )

in “The cost of games” · View on HN

maerF0x0May 2017Cites it

All the fears around growth is from people not understanding the difference between absolute growth and relative growth. Which is better growth of 1000 or 3% ? the developed world cannot grow at high percentage points because they're so large. This video more or less shows the insanity of trying to grow at a fixed rate (say being an "emerging market" at 6% per year) for an indefinite timespan. ▶ this video

in “China Can’t Sustain Its Debt-Fueled Binge, Moody’s Says” · View on HN

acqqFeb 2017Cites it

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function" ▶ this video

in “To Live Your Best Life, Do Mathematics” · View on HN

espeedFeb 2017Cites it

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." - Dr. Albert A. Bartlett That's the thesis of Dr. Bartlett's famous lecture "Arithmetic, Population and Energy": ▶ this video Calculus is foundational for understanding our rapidly changing, data-driven world. It gives us the ability to see. You can apply calculus anytime you have a quantity that's changing over time, and you want to see where things are going, how things are changing, and when something is going to happen based on its rate of change -- e.g. stocks, startup growth metrics, how an idea is spreading, mass-market adoption, etc -- anytime you have time-series data and you want to see what it means -- make sense out of it, and understand its implications. See [link] And Calculus gives you the ability to calculate how lifelong learning can impact your growth over time -- the significance it can have throughout your life/career -- and realize it's never too late to learn anything ;-) In the words of Prof John Ousterhout: "A little bit of slope makes up for a lot of y-intercept." [link]

in “Big Picture of Calculus (2010) [video]” · View on HN

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