It’s Time To Break Up With Our Gas Stoves | Climate Town

Watch this video about how the idea that gas was better for cooking was a marketing ploy with no basis in reality and how they used lobbyist to force has connections into building codes ▶ this video

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Induction stoves are awesome, normal electric stoves suck. You know what sucks? Gas stoves. [0] [0]: ▶ this video

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The thing is - when you get rid of gas stoves you can get rid of almost all other gas appliances. That’s literally the only thing keeping gas in most homes in the USA and continued in new construction. When you add in gas water heaters, heating, etc. then gas becomes a more significant contributor to GHG. Whereas switching all of those with heatpumps and induction cuts off the gas lobby from fucking with everyone. Best way to get gas lobby to stop winning? Get rid of gas stoves. Climate Town has a good video on this subject. ▶ this video

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By what measure? Induction wins hands down for control, responsiveness, efficiency, and heat output: ▶ this video Doing a super low temp simmer on gas is hard. Double boilers are only something you need with gas. Induction imho and experience is just better all around. What the video for someone putting it far more eloquently then I ever could.

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The big problem with piping natural gas to buildings is that the miles of pipes that deliver the gas leak. Gas leaking is a real issue since an equal amount of un-burnt methane has 25x the climate change potential as CO2. Even if the power plants supplying electric heat pumps/radiators is natural gas, the shorter supply chain (only to power plant and not to every building in the city) go some way to offsetting extra emissions. Then you have the obvious benefit that once the NYC grid transitions to renewables there won't be as many natural gas ovens and heaters that need to be replaced. The commenters pointing out that natural gas stoves don't have a significant effect on emissions are right, but once a building gets a gas hookup installing natural gas heaters and water heaters becomes more attractive and economical. That's something we don't want to be incentivizing Climate town recently released a new video talking about this issue as well as the decades of marketing and lobbying the natural gas industry has paid for to neuter or outright kill legislation like this. ▶ this video

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It isn't completely irrelevant; they didn't mention wild birds, or any wider context - the way they commented was as a shock number, the intent of that is "wind turbines kill $bignum, stop wind turbines". The relevance of the much bigger shock number is to put it in context - human activity slaughters a lot of animals. Okay, something else which affects wild birds: " Bird corpses were counted - and, where possible, identified - at 166 locations throughout Britain during the summer of 1985. The survey covered all roads except motorways. It is the most recent such study, and the most comprehensive. The results were depressing. A minimum of 30 million birds are killed on Britain's roads every year. Depending on the assumptions made in the statistical analysis, the death rate could be even higher: 70 million a year is not impossible. "[1] And that's as well as wild rabbits, hedgehogs, badgers, foxes, deer, and so on killed by cars which wind turbines don't affect. So the wildlife in the UK would be much better off if we built more viable alternatives to driving and road trucking than if we scrapped wind turbines. We can also note that people are working on wind turbines that don't kill birds, e.g. [2]. It's not a fixed fact that all wind turbine designs do the same damage. In the context of a world where fossil fuel propaganda really does exist[3] and Trump's recent executive order on unleashing energy generation where he tells government departments to look for all kinds of ener

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I switched to induction holy shit it's so much better! if you have compatible cookware, definitely try it out, you can get an external induction cooktop from Ikea for like $60. if you don't, get some and switch because the cooking process is so much more enjoyable. you know how when you're sauteing something and you wanna get a good sniff because it's smells amazing, only to get your eyebrows singed and a lungfull of half combusted propane? with induction, you get nothing but the smell of your food, without the excess wasted heat. also, it's fast on the big eye I can boil water insanely fast, I honestly didn't know it was possible to boil water that fast. and I can say this all only as a happy customer who paid my own money, not as a paid advertisement, UNLIKE the gas industry which has been pushing this shit through influencers and marketing for decades. [1] [1] ▶ this video [Climate Town - It's Time to Break Up with Our Gas Stoves 21:27]

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They must have perceived some threats because they created this entire astroturf campaign for the pro-gas side. ▶ this video

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Gas stoves need to go away because getting rid of gas infrastructure in the long term will be a huge win, but the gas industry spends heavily on propaganda to convince people otherwise: ▶ this video

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I would be all for moving off gas-stoves, but can we acknowledge that the alternatives really suck if you like cooking ? I want to be part of the solution, so here are few things that alternatives need to figure out before I move off gas: Easy problems : 1. No more cycling-induction/electric stoves. I do not want my food alternating between burning & sitting around. 2. A power setting where low-to-medium aren't only kind of burning your food. 3. Off means off. I don't want my food cooking for 5 more minutes after I turn the stove off. 4. Kitchen ranges having high quality broilers to make up for the lack of a charring mechanism on alternative ranges. Hard problems : 1. Being able to change the shape of the surface element to trace the shape of the pan. I cook with a wok, and all non-gas-ranges only heat the very center. If I can use a wok to fix the shape of the coil into a bowl, then I can ensure even heating even in a wok. (It's a spring coil, the shape should be mechanically adjustable). 2. Can the good ones be competitive on prices with top gas ranges ? I really dislike electric stoves, they have the worst of all worlds. Induction stoves: I could live with, but the good ones are too expensive to be a reasonable alternative for most people. There are additional good reasons to switch as seen from this[1] video. [1] ▶ this video ______________ Final caveat for tropical countries. Here, windows are always open. Houses often lack a gas connection, and instead have a gas-cylinder s

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The "Rappin' with Gas!" video is featured in this Climate Town at about the 2:45 mark: ▶ this video

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> By the way, this is why the gas company is paying for articles like this. That's such huge coincidence! During a break I started to watch ▶ this video (still on the first few minutes) and the author talks _exactly_ about that, where a gas company (industry?) is paying people to post #cookingwithgas videos.

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> I used to think solar and wind power were the best ways to reduce CO2 emissions. But the biggest reduction in CO2 emissionsduring the past 15 years (over 60%) has come from switching from coal to natural gas. That one needs a citation to back it up. It might be true, but natural gas leaks a lot of Methane (CH4) into the atmosphere, which way stronger greenhouse gas effect than CO2. So it might be worse than coal actually. My sources: * ▶ this video (around 16:11) * [link]

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I wonder - do you think that people always loved cooking with gas as much as they do now? ▶ this video A lot of “cultural” things are corporations at work. This is a very small example…

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